One of my favorite organist jokes goes like this:
What’s the difference between an organist and a terrorist?
You can negotiate with a terrorist.
It’s a funny joke that quickly gets at the heart of the reputation organists have of being unbendable, inflexible, unwilling to take direction, and impossible to work with.
Many “contemporary” worship leaders would nod their heads at that last paragraph, immediately thinking of organists who have refused to play along either out of disdain for “pop” music or an inability to work off of chord charts or simple lead sheets. Because of this disconnect between organists and contemporary musicians, a dividing wall is built up (with varying levels of hostility depending on the egos involved) that results in the worship team standing on the side lines while the organist does his/her thing, and vice versa.
And because of this, when organists get together to tell their own jokes about guitarists, the punch lines in the other direction aren’t any more gracious than the one I told above. We each equate the other person to being (worse than) a terrorist and go on our own way not negotiating with them out of a matter of egotistical security.
It doesn’t have to be this way. Contemporary musicians and organists can (and should) play well together. There is no reason to take an “either/or” approach to organs and guitars, or organs and drums. Organs don’t have to be seen as a relic, and amplifiers don’t have to be seen as the enemy. We can laugh at our reputations (and sarcastic jokes) with good humor, reaching out to each other in mutual submission. The results might be a bit messy, and we might break some musical rules, but the Church will be edified, and the musical traditions that have been passed down won’t be abandoned.
As a life-long Anglican, almost every church I’ve ever attended has had an organ as a central instrument in its worship life. And in every one of those churches where organs have been central, I have come along with my guitar, (and usually my drums-playing brother too), and tried my hand at the “playing well together” approach.
I made some huge mistakes early on.
- I assumed the organist couldn’t/didn’t want to play along, so I didn’t even give them music or communicate with them.
- If I did give them music, they were simple chord charts (lyrics and chords), which, for many organists, are complete nonsense.
- I didn’t try to build a relationship with the organist.
- I secretly wanted to see the organ disappear.
- I looked at my (at that point) 1-2 years of experience leading worship for a youth group as being superior to their decades of playing, lessons, studying, and degrees.
- I saw things in terms of superior/inferior.
Needless to say, in those early years, the organists and I saw each other more like terrorists and less like partners.
There came a shift for me when I came (as a high schooler) to Truro Anglican Church in Fairfax, where I’m now (God has a sense of humor) the Director of Worship and Arts. It was the first time I had seen drums/organ/guitars/strings/descants/synthesizers all “blended” together without killing each other in the process. It was messy. But it was wonderful.
I drank it up for a few years before God called to me to another church, The Falls Church Anglican, where for a decade I would continue along as the contemporary guy attempting to bridge the divide with the classical guys. Sometimes it worked. Sometimes it didn’t. But most of the time it worked, and I learned some lessons about how to play well with organists.
Here are ten of them.
- Be humble. Organists have been taught (seriously) that you are the enemy. Disarm them (if they believe this) by being humble.
- Be winsome. Kill the elephant in the room by making fun of it. You’re a guitarist. You don’t read music. They’re an organist. They can play Bach for hours without messing up once. You’re trying to work together. It’s hilarious. Laugh about it.
- Ask them specifically for their help. You have a guitar. Or you have 88 piano keys. They have an entire orchestra at their fingertips for crying out loud. They have something to add, and the fact that you’re humbly and winsomely asking them for help is even more wonderfully disarming.
- Give them specific instructions. Don’t tell them how to play organ (since you have no idea), but at least try to walk them through the whole song and say “on the intro do something like this, on verse one don’t play, on the first chorus how about something like this…” and so on.Some organists like improvising. Most do not. But all organists are quite used to having very specific music with every single note, every dynamic change, and every volume swell specifically laid out. If all you give them is a chord chart strewn with mistakes, then they’re going to politely slide off the organ bench and be frustrated. They will appreciate (and do better) if you’re very specific about what you want.
- Embrace the awkward. It might sound a little muddled. There might be too much bass in the room if the pedals are walking all over the bass guitar. The organist might get a little loud. Whatever. Who cares. You’re demonstrating something very sweet and God-honoring. In ten years no one will remember how it sounded, but they will remember such a powerful display of musical unity.
- Music matters. If their brain is able to improvise off of a chord chart, then that’s wonderful (maybe). But organists usually like a little more than lyrics or chords, so be willing to go through the work to get them sheet music, and to tailor your arrangement to work with the sheet music they’ve been given. If the song you want to use is a hymn, you can use the hymnal arrangement and ask the organist to write out the chords for you. Or if the song is on CCLI’s SongSelect, you can print out the lead sheets or 4-part vocal score. Or (gasp) actually buy the actual sheet music.
- Include them as a member of your team. It’s hard for you all to consider each other enemies when you’re getting pizza together after rehearsal, or hanging out together in between services eating donuts. Mmm. Pizza and donuts. Now there’s a winning combo!
- Turn them loose. Let them do their preludes and postludes with as much bombast as they want. Give them hymns and anthems to accompany that let them use all their skills to their fullest. Then ask them to play with just as much intentionality (yet more constraints) on the songs you’re leading.
- Don’t talk, socialize, or set-up and tear-down equipment during their preludes or postludes. It annoys them.
- Learn from them. They probably have some really good arrangement ideas. They might be able to teach you a lot about music theory. Who knows – they might even be willing to give you organ lessons. Then you’ll become one of them and they will have won!
Do what you can to try to make this work. It will be awkward. You’ll be speaking different languages. But it just might be a wonderful blessing, and a practical demonstration of the reconciling power of the gospel.
7 thoughts on “How to Play Well with Organists”
Great post, Jamie. The intro of “Praise My Soul, The King Of Heaven” where the band drops out and just the organ plays is one of my favorite musical moments of the “A Thousand Amens” album. Has brought tears to my eyes on more than a couple occasions. Also the textures the organ adds in “All To Us” in the choruses and bridge served that song so well. Though I will probably never get to work with an organist, as a volunteer worship leader without formal musical training, your post encourages me to seek out and learn from those in my church who do have formal musical training but who may not have the same musical tastes and tendencies.
Thanks, Joe. That moment in that song is certainly one of my favorites too. We got a great sound out of that organ. Pairing contemporary and classical instruments is a wonderful foretaste of heaven.
As usual your insights are helpful for the work of kingdom building. As someone who sits in the gap between contemporary and classical I submit that what is needed on both sides is a healthy dose of respect and some forward thinking In many cases there is little appreciation for the years of study and practice that it takes to master the organ, not to mention the lack of appreciation for the music. On the other side there seems to be an equal deficiency to appreciate God given talent which is often self taught but has a genuine passion and heart for worship. There is much that can be learned from each side but we often lack the vocabulary and patience required to communicate adequately. My best advice is to start by becoming friends and realize that there is much to gain personally, musically and most important in the advance of the kingdom and building of the body.
Wow! Thank you for these thoughts, Jamie, and the way they challenge us in the vein of Phil 2 – “…in humility, consider others better than yourself…”; and then as I’ve been reading in James recently, “You can develop a healthy, robust community that lives right with God and enjoy its results only if you DO THE HARD WORK of getting along with each other, treating each other with dignity and honor.” (chapter 4, MSG, emphasis mine)
I lead an 8:40 contemporary service at our church on Sundays which meets in our Fellowship Hall. There is an 11am traditional service which meets in our sanctuary where the organ and piano are the primary instruments. Some of my most favorite times of worship are when both congregations meet together in the sanctuary for a combined worship experience, and it is exactly as you described. The pianist and organist knock it out of the park with Preludes and Offertories (something our 8:40 congregation doesn’t get to experience regularly in worship), and then the organ will come right alongside something our band is doing and it is glorious musically as well as a huge statement of “musical unity,” as you said. Our organist and pianist are two of the most talented, creative, generous, and humble people I have ever met. I am truly grateful to be a part of this worship leadership team.
That was…beautiful. I feel like it could even be a model of how any musician/tech/pastor/etc. working relationship can be handled well. Thank you!